Like a Racehorse
Posted by Neal on April 25, 2006
DGM of Sunny Side Up has written about her encounters with an evil nurse at the ER. At one point in the story, she tells us,
I had to pee like a racehorse.
Now DGM is a bit sensitive about me putting stuff she writes under the linguistic magnifying glass, so let me say that I wasn’t planning on commenting on this sentence, any more than I’d comment on most other idioms I come across. But that was before one commenter asked:
One thing I need clarified: I’ve never understood why race horses, in particular, need to piss so bad.
My brother Glen then stepped in to explain:
I can clarify the racehorse thing. The phrase “need to piss like a racehorse” should be parsed [need to] [piss like a racehorse], *not* [need to piss] [like a racehorse]. In other words, racehorses have no special need to piss that other organisms do not. Rather, racehorses piss in a particular way, and the speaker needs to piss in that way. And what is that way, you ask? In a long gushing torrent, as you’ll know if you ever observe a racehorse pissing.
A good analysis. The only thing I’d change is his bracketing for the intended reading to [need to [ piss like a racehorse] ].
This is an example of an attachment ambiguity, in that we could theoretically attach the modifier like a racehorse to the “lower” verb phrase pee or to the “higher” verb phrase need to pee. As Glen explained, the intended attachment is to the lower verb, but why the tendency for at least one person, and probably many others, to attach it up high? I think it’s just because the entire phrase need to pee like a racehorse has the meaning of “need very intensely to urinate,” or as the commenter put it, “need to piss [really] bad.” (I mean, I can’t really think of any reason for needing to pee in a long, gushing torrent, other than that you urgently need to go. Can you?) So if that’s what the entire phrase means, and the “need to pee” part of the meaning is clearly taken up by the need to pee part of the phrase, then it stands to reason that the “bad/intensely” part of the meaning must correspond to what’s left: like a racehorse. And hence the bias toward attaching it to the higher phrase need to pee.
Of course, if need to pee like a racehorse is ambiguous in this way, so is need to pee really bad. I have fun attaching the really bad down low instead of up high, producing dialogues like this:
Doug or Adam: I need to pee really bad!
Neal: OK, go pee really bad!
Now that I think about it, I suppose that’s not such a good thing to tell little boys.
April 26, 2006 at 12:31 am
The “Doug or Adam” dialogue reminds me of a card I once received inside a box of other things I got at a garage sale.
It was the size of a business card, with a picture of a moose head on it. Think Bullwinkle or, if you’re an old Machead, the Talking Moose.
Anyway, on one side of the card it said “I need someone really bad.” When you flip it over, it read “Are you really bad?”
April 26, 2006 at 7:39 am
[phew!]
April 26, 2006 at 5:03 pm
The first time I heard this expression, probably in the 1960s, I heard it as “I have to pee like a Russian racehorse.” Like you, I didn’t understand, so I asked the person who had used the expression what it meant. The explanation was that in Russia a racehorse’s trainer would tie a string around the horse’s penis an hour or so before the race so that the horse could not urinate. The resulting bladder discomfort would spur the horse to run faster, knowing (presumably from previous training/conditioning) that the string would be removed after the race. Even if this isn’t true — and I’m willing to be it isn’t — it’s a fine explanation.
April 26, 2006 at 10:12 pm
Graeme: And that reminds me of the line in Madonna’s “Crazy for You”: “I’ve never wanted anyone like this.” Under the “low” attachment for like this, it must be a pretty freaky, weirdo person she wants. I think Yoplait made this joke intentionally a couple of years ago with their “You’ve never eaten yogurt like this before” campaign, featuring people posed in weird positions while eating yogurt.
Bob: Thanks for the information. If this really is the origin of the phrase, then it sounds like the modifier like a racehorse was originally intended to attach to the entire phrase need to piss after all.
May 12, 2006 at 7:21 pm
Ok, most racehorses are injected with a diuretic called Lasix (used to prevent exercise induced hemorraghing) 4 hours before they race which makes them pee a lot.
June 8, 2006 at 4:28 pm
bob,
i think if you tie anything around a horse’s penis you would find yourself in extreme discomfort. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen rodeo events, but a rope is tied around the body of the horse or bull similar to a belt would be, but it cinches the pensis of the animal, thus making it buck and kick to get the rope off.
The strap is removed and the animal immediatly calms. So, i don’t think this could be how racing horses are trained in russia.
Sneaky cat’s explanation sounds most sensible.
August 22, 2006 at 10:59 pm
I don’t know where you got that ‘rope being tied around the penis in rodeo events’ business. But, the animals in these events actually buck because the rider is driving his spurs into their sides.
December 11, 2006 at 6:20 pm
Ryan,
Have you EVER been to a rodeo??
December 19, 2006 at 8:47 pm
The animals at a rodeo are not bucking because they’re being spurred or because anything is touching their penis. In fact, there is a belt cinched around the abdomen (excluding the penis) that creates discomfort. It has nothing to do with spurs or penises.
December 25, 2006 at 11:00 pm
This article made me laugh. Poor racehorses. In their minds, they’re just running to the nearest restroom.
February 19, 2007 at 1:13 am
this is hilarious….
January 22, 2008 at 9:23 pm
omg, this is sooo funny.
i say this all the time, and my dad says he has since he was in high school.
but personally, i’m voting for the diuretic theory.
maybe the russian part was added for coolness?
January 25, 2008 at 1:51 am
lol Funny post! I use this phrase a lot. I have a bladder the size of a chickpea, so every micturition emergency for me is akin to the racehorse’s predicament.
But…umm…question: What if the Russian racehorse is female?
February 14, 2008 at 10:16 pm
You all seem like DOPES. In reality, one can assume that ANY horse at all is invariably comparative to a human pissing…at ANY stage. A human will generally piss SO much less then ANY horse, the comparison should, by proxy, become irrelevant. “PISSING like a racehorse” as a comment is merely an exaggeration dealing with the amount of urine excreted from the horse at any given time. NO human is capable of holding THAT amount of fluid in it’s body EVER. (IF anyone has a video to dispel that i would LOVE to see that). FINAL SUMMATION: A human cannot “Piss like a racehorse”…or ANY other horse for that matter. We, in society, speak in “slang” that is composed of many different aspects of speaking, and deals with how one is attempting to convery oneself. The comparison of a horse to man in a urination sense can really not ever be made on a serious sense. It can only be made as an exaggeration as to the fact that one needs to expel urine at a larger rate than normal…as a horse normally does. Therefore, i concluse, one can only “piss like a racehorse” in a figurative sense…no matter what kind of horse you are talking about.
I’m a philosophy major. BYe!
February 19, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Do racehorses piss any more (or more frequently or whatever the term is referring to) than a non racing horse?
February 22, 2008 at 10:56 pm
A reader named Ed was unable to post this comment, so I’m posting it for him. He found some more information on the origin of this phrase in an entry at Phrase Finder. Thanks, Ed!