A couple of posts back, I tackled my brother’s question of whether one would say “black little people” (yes), or “little black people” (not so much). M. Makino commented,
I usually try to shorthand the order of adjectives for students by telling them that the stuff people feel is closest to their identities comes last. It seems feasible that someone whose ethnicity was of extreme importance might put it after “little”.
My response:
… Your point gives me an idea for another collocation battle to carry out in a corpus: “Deaf” vs. “black”.
So what are we waiting for? Let’s go!
Let’s start by pulling up our handy adjective-ordering template:
evaluation | size | shape | condition | human propensity | age | color | origin | material | attributive noun |
OK, let’s see…black is a color adjective. Deaf is a human propensity adjective (more specifically, one of physical state, as opposed to mental state or behavior). So we would expect deaf black to be the usual way of ordering theses adjectives. Now let’s see what we actually get.
Searching COCA for deaf black, I got nothing. Searching for black deaf, I got two examples, both in the same sentence:
Merriweather, a member of the Atlanta Black Deaf Advocates Board and Miss Black Deaf America 1991, is featured in the October issue of the magazine.
In search of a larger sample, I turned to the NOW Corpus. For deaf black, I got a single hit:
You can imagine the delight of students when the first deaf black woman lawyer in the US visited them last Monday.
The clear winner turned out to be black deaf, which returned the following examples, among others:
- Childress was a founding member of National Black Deaf Advocates, and established BRIDGES, an organization assisting black deaf interpreters and their clients
- advocate, founder, fighter and creator of things that are now part of black deaf community, as well as an interpreter, ” says Fred Beam, a deaf
- And she particularly cared about black deaf people being able to be their best selves
- to safeguard the general health and welfare of Black deaf and hard of hearing people
- hiring more black deaf and hearing ASL interpreters; and hosting a public town hall to update the community
- the hiring more black deaf and ASL interpreters and black trans women, indigenous people, and others from vulnerable
- The son of a deaf woman and volunteer with the Detroit Black Deaf Advocates, Smith hopes to one day blend his fluency in American Sign Language with
- So now it’s the LGBT community vs. us black deaf. Sigh!
- the Blade expressed disagreement with this person’s claim that LGBT deaf people and black deaf people at Gallaudet were at odds with each other.
- While at the university, Whyte also met and worked with Miss Black Deaf America 2011-2013, Ericka Baylor.
What gives? Well, with black little person/people, I concluded that whereas black person/people was an ordinary phrase, little person/people was a compound noun, and that was why it didn’t get broken up by black. Maybe deaf person/people is a compound, too. Let’s run it through the same tests we did with little person/people and black person/people in the other post:
- Stress shift: deaf person and deaf person have the same meaning and are both acceptable depending on context. Indication: Phrasal
- Idiosyncratic meaning: deaf person/people has a mostly compositional meaning here. Indication: Phrasal
- Suitability of other nouns: deaf men, deaf women, deaf children, deaf bakers, and deaf CEOs are all still deaf people. Indication: Phrasal
- One-replacement: deaf people and hearing ones is grammatical. Indication: Phrasal
No luck, then. Both black and deaf seem to form phrases with the nouns they modify, so we would still expect deaf black rather than black deaf. So does Makino’s rule of thumb about closeness to your identity may work better than the adjective-ordering template when it comes to describing people? Maybe; do black Deaf people consider deafness to be a more fundamental part of their identity than their race? I don’t know. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that some do and some don’t.